EDAR is Echo Discord Alternative Review. u/ad3lyt posts it on r/DiscordAlternatives. Each installment scores a chat app out of 9. The disclaimer is always the same: he owns a direct competitor, and he is the only reviewer. Then he keeps scoring.
Scroll sideways on a phone if the table is tight.
| Date | Target | Score | Thread |
|---|---|---|---|
| 24 Sep 2026 | Echo, third-party review | 0 / 9 | Echo EDAR Review 0/9 |
| 23 Sep 2026 | GameVox | 3 / 9 | GameVox EDAR Review 3/9 |
| 23 Sep 2026 | Root | 4.3 / 9 | Root EDAR Review |
| 23 Sep 2026 | Osmium | 4.67 / 9 | Osmium EDAR Review |
| 22 Sep 2026 | Valour | 4.67 / 9 | Valour EDAR Review |
| 21 Sep 2026 | Nerimity | 6 / 9 | Nerimity EDAR |
| Aug 2026 | Echo (his) | 3.3 / 9 | Echo EDAR Review |
| Aug 2026 | Element | 6 / 9 | Element EDAR Review |
| Sept 2026 | Stoat | 6 / 9 | Stoat EDAR Review |
Fenrid got a separate 3/10 write-up, 1 June 2026, labelled “Heavy” slop, with a conflict-of-interest line at the top. The method is a 3×3 grid: Trust (license, centralisation, other), Experience (UI, UX, features), Readiness (popularity, platform parity, staying power). He is the only person filling the grid. He then built alternatives-discord.com so visitors can weight those cells and receive a ranked list.
Disclaimer of conflict of interest: I am the owner of a direct competitor (Echo), and the only reviewer.
A disclaimer is a label. It does not make a one-person competitor ranking independent. Independent would mean someone else writes it.
Echo EDAR, August 2026, his words:
He told readers that if they wanted a ready Discord alternative, they should pick a higher-scoring app than his. That is the honest product review. The rest of his Reddit history is launch threads, demo videos, “Has anyone tried out Echo?”, and “Is Echo a secure discord alternative that can be trusted?” The self-score and the marketing do not share a narrator.
Element: top pick if you will relearn everything; UK jurisdiction is “a very major concern”; “I would not recommend Element if you care about a good client.” Stoat: “nice conservative option,” “not the most creative,” Material Design “isn’t the right choice,” empty widths and over-long modals. Fenrid: “overhyped,” “way too much obvious LLM assistance,” Turkey as “an authoritarian State.”
On 28 May 2026 he posted “Osmium is botting / manufacturing their own posts + attacking other alternatives.” Evidence offered: a comment that “sounded nothing at all like anything any normal person would write,” and that top commenters “seemed to be devs.” Two days later, a warning thread accused him of upvote botting. He answered that he has done zero botting, and that it is “easily verifiable.” He did not post the verification.
PullPush, author u/ad3lyt, sample from 2026:
Echo Community Guidelines, 3 June 2026: “Self-promotion, advertising, or unsolicited marketing is not allowed on the platform.” The platform is Echo. The channel is Reddit. The distinction is doing a lot of work.
A commenter on the Echo EDAR put Echo on an “I wouldn’t reccomend it” list, citing Adel’s own review, because of centralized bans even for self-hosted instances. That is a reader using the scoreboard as written. The scoreboard still funnels people through a site Adel owns.
The grid is real. The conflict line is real. The problem is the rest of the method:
You can disclose a conflict and still be the conflict. EDAR is Adel talking about the market he wants to win, in the subreddit where that market argues.
On 24 September someone else used the same grid on Echo and scored it 0/9. The trust section of that post is about the 1 May chat. What the screenshot shows, and what Adel later said it meant, is on the May 1 page.